Posts by compound complex

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Did Jesus Christ Have A Messianic Superiority Complex?

by frankiespeakin in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/messiah_complex.

a messiah complex (also known as the christ complex or savior complex ) is a state of mind in which an individual holds a belief that they are, or are destined to become, a savior .

the term "messiah complex" is not addressed in the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (dsm) , but symptoms of the disorder closely resemble those found in individuals suffering from grandiose delusions (gd) or delusions of grandeur.

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Greetings, frankiespeakin:

NOT IN HIS IMAGE, by John Lamb Lash, is one of many studies on salvationism and the redeemer complex. There were many claimants to the role of messiah during Roman rule. The Zealots, a small band of fanatical insurgent Jews, were primarily responsible for Rome's initially reluctant destruction of the entire nation of an otherwise law-abiding Jewish population.

The so-called pagans had no concept of sin, hence no need for redemption. Interesting, too, is what Lamb references as the perpertrator-victim complex where one group of men metes out divine punishment to another -- the victims -- with God's approval. So the subjugated pagans were forced to look for future relief from the messiah whose "chosen" instrument -- sinners themselves -- were practicing cruelty but preaching redemption.

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Books of "Babylon the Great" quoted by the Society

by opusdei1972 in

the watchtower says:.

true christians keep clear of false worship, rejecting false religious teachings.

this means that we avoid exposure to religious programs on radio and television as well as religious literature that promotes lies about god and his word.

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Excellent points, opusdei1972:

Earlier today I was wondering -- out of the blue -- why God's so-called channel of truth would require any outside research material in the first place. Of course, reality dictates that all such theological matters be studied, discussed and necessary refinements ascertained through human effort, not that there would be universal acceptance of conclusions reached. If the Society had not made an issue of proscribing the research done by theologians of Christendom for their own membership, this would simply be a non-issue.

It's historical for people to study what has been written in the past and then do with that information what they will, for the betterment, it is hoped, of others who read the latest renderings. At best, it can never really be anything more than flawed human reasoning.

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JW.org Lapel Pins for I.D. ?

by ShirleyW in

jw
friends

today was the first time i've seen a bro wearing a jw.

org lapel pin, actually much, much larger than an actual lapel pin.

square shaped, the background was olive green but the letters were white in bold letters.

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Yes, when JWs man the literature cart, it is current policy NOT to address passersby and offer publications. I did not receive an explanation as to why.

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Street work

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

standing on corners holding up the awake and watchtower magazines?

all hours, all weathers?

street work reminds me of randy crawford's "street life" - i've modified the lyrics.... .

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Welcome, sallypeterson, to the forum!

CoCo

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Street work

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

standing on corners holding up the awake and watchtower magazines?

all hours, all weathers?

street work reminds me of randy crawford's "street life" - i've modified the lyrics.... .

compound complex

Agreed on the points made regarding all aspects of the viability and desirability (or non-) of street work.

Does anyone know why cart manners are officially instructed not to approach passersby?

Thanks!

CC

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Today's WT study!. Watch out for the "wicked" in the cong!

by stuckinarut2 in

how strange today's study was!.

warning examples of apostacy, and saying to all witnesses "watch for bad associations in the cong".

talk about paranoia and distrust amongst themselves!.

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Dear bobcat and leaving_quietly:

I understand the sense of futility you have experienced and in no wise would downplay what you have expressed.

There are so many variables that affect whether or not the point made (comments at the WT study) sticks in the hearers' minds and, subsequently, roots in their hearts. After all, many of us have had our own faith shattered, not only in our particular religious faith -- that of Jehovah's Witnesses -- but also in the truthfulness and reliability of the Bible itself.

There's no expectation on my part of some great awakening or epiphany for those I talk to, either personally or by comments at meeting. I love these people and what I learned as an elder, pioneer and Bethelite could serve some beneficial purpose, however remote. That, of course, in combination with my knowledge of TTATT.

I am an inveterate optimist.

Blessings and peace.

CoCo

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Today's WT study!. Watch out for the "wicked" in the cong!

by stuckinarut2 in

how strange today's study was!.

warning examples of apostacy, and saying to all witnesses "watch for bad associations in the cong".

talk about paranoia and distrust amongst themselves!.

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OneEyedJoe:

Your point is well taken; I understand the frustration. Nevertheless, tiny drops of water . . .

Having done this for so many years (study and research in minute detail), the backlog of "useful" information pops out at an often opportune time, hence the above comment. It wasn't planned.

Thanks for posting.

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Today's WT study!. Watch out for the "wicked" in the cong!

by stuckinarut2 in

how strange today's study was!.

warning examples of apostacy, and saying to all witnesses "watch for bad associations in the cong".

talk about paranoia and distrust amongst themselves!.

compound complex

"Love produces confidence in one's faithful Christian brothers; a Christian would not suspect them or disbelieve them unless there was absolute proof that they were wrong." -- Regarding 1 Cor. 13:7, INSIGHT ON THE SCRIPTURES, page 278, para. 5.

A paraphrase of the above was my comment at the study. Afterwards, some of the friends thanked me for that information. So much vacillation, however, between extreme points of view.

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GB Gerrit Losch and his questionable article in the 7/14 WT study edition!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

in this article gerrit talks about his father in the first and last paragraphs, what he says about him and his hope for him goes against all that witnesses have preached about the worldly for the last 100 years... as i recall aren't all the worldly supposed to be destroyed and never have a hope of everlasting life like jw's are, and isn't that the purpose of the preaching work to baptize and warn the worldly of this???

if not why do jws even preach, or even become jws in the first place if all have a hope of everlasting life, jw and non-jw, are they releasing a little hint at new light to come???

or am i just missing or over analyzing something?.

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BTW: 'There is to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous (those heretofore unacquainted with God's will).'

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GB Gerrit Losch and his questionable article in the 7/14 WT study edition!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

in this article gerrit talks about his father in the first and last paragraphs, what he says about him and his hope for him goes against all that witnesses have preached about the worldly for the last 100 years... as i recall aren't all the worldly supposed to be destroyed and never have a hope of everlasting life like jw's are, and isn't that the purpose of the preaching work to baptize and warn the worldly of this???

if not why do jws even preach, or even become jws in the first place if all have a hope of everlasting life, jw and non-jw, are they releasing a little hint at new light to come???

or am i just missing or over analyzing something?.

compound complex

Thank you, ADJUSTMENTS, for posting this.

During last week's WT study, I looked at the article and was taken by the comment below:

"I also look forward to observing from heaven the earthly resurrection and, at last, finding my physical father."

I will not say how I "was taken." While not taking issue with his sincerity, nevertheless, I puzzled over his declared assurance of the 3 words in bold face.

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